I was banned for standing up for myself.

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I was banned by Benjamin for standing up for myself against some person who felt like cussing me out for something I didn't do. This ban is unjust and should be removed.

The kiddo that got mad at me and cussed at me for NO reason (maxv) thought I prop pushed him. Funny, didn't know I could prop push and use a toolgun at the same time. I was fixing something in my color tool and drift E2. So of course the staff favor the higher rank who is in the wrong, resulting in me being kicked by a mod. I thought okay, it's fine. I come back and I get perma banned for no reason what so ever by Benjamin.
 
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I will look into this further. Can you please tell me what server this was on and your Steam ID please.
 
You can attempt to play the innocent card, but I don't think it's going to work in this situation. You were reminded by numerous people to adhere to the rules. This is only a portion of the log, I could pull up more but I don't think it's necessary.

You in fact were banned for player disrespect, which is clearly the issue here.

His ban record: Here.

--Pulled from 01-10-16.txt--


[13:31:05] carcinoGeneticist: lel

[13:31:15] Doomhero: not for real by the way
[13:31:16] carcinoGeneticist: Sup faggot.
[13:31:22] |TBB| Benjamin: Carcino
[13:31:25] carcinoGeneticist: What
[13:31:27] |TBB| Benjamin: we dont allow that word
[13:31:28] Client "[SSoM]waitforitwaitforitDEAD" connected.
[13:31:29] carcinoGeneticist: Fine
[13:31:31] *** TBB | VXkiller85 #RoadToLeader you are FIRED!
[13:31:35] carcinoGeneticist: :|


[13:56:04] asian guy: i can bypass sv_cheats clientside so i can hear everyone
[13:56:20] carcinoGeneticist: No.
[13:56:23] asian guy: k
[13:56:24] carcinoGeneticist: You can't :|
[13:56:33] asian guy: well only i can
[13:56:42] [TBB] [MBC] Killerstarling6: Why is it even on?
[13:56:45] carcinoGeneticist: Aren't you a kool kid.
[13:56:51] carcinoGeneticist: Because Ben put it on
[13:56:54] bahremu: can you make it so we can hear everybody
[13:56:58] asian guy: it suks
[13:57:05] carcinoGeneticist: So VX's voice didn't kill our ears.
[13:57:13] carcinoGeneticist: And kid, step the fuck off I'm not even doing anything XD
[13:57:17] bahremu: I don't carel
[13:57:27] carcinoGeneticist: He's getting so pissed off because I'm standing near him.

[14:01:47] carcinoGeneticist: How about you unmute me so I can speak to you, shitface

[14:02:55] bahremu: no swearing it's a rule
[14:03:15] bahremu<STEAM_0:0:90955128> spawned model models/props_c17/furnitureshelf001b.mdl
[14:04:20] Client "[DRIFT] xXRandomXx11" connected.
[14:05:05] Client "sebby24912" connected.
[14:05:34] bahremu: No disrespect, no cursing at people, no sexual conduct, no bullying.
[14:06:00] carcinoGeneticist: You're one to talk about having a voice that makes ears bleed.

[14:12:23] bahremu: hi my car is smoking
[14:12:30] (TEAM) nc77812: ill repair i need to put up signs
[14:12:31] carcinoGeneticist: Sounds like a rehab issue.

[14:36:52] maxv: carcino
[14:36:58] nc77812: nvm
[14:36:59] carcinoGeneticist: ?
[14:37:00] bahremu: I am on the way back and Josh is going to work
[14:37:05] maxv: you pushed my car into the wall
[14:37:11] carcinoGeneticist: No I didn't XD
[14:37:20] carcinoGeneticist: Check console I spawned no prop what so ever XD

[14:37:33] maxv: w/e
[14:37:41] carcinoGeneticist: Awh someone a bit butthurt? :3
[14:37:49] maxv: dont be a dick
[14:37:55] carcinoGeneticist: Then don't suck one.
[14:38:04] maxv: the fuck is your actual problem?
[14:38:11] carcinoGeneticist: What's yours? :3

[14:38:23] bahremu: No disrespect, no cursing at people, no sexual conduct, no bullying.

[14:41:28] (Console) kicked carcinoGeneticist (No Player Disrespect.)
[14:41:28] Dropped "carcinoGeneticist" from server<STEAM_0:1:41845776>
[14:41:37] Client "carcinoGeneticist" connected.


[14:44:27] carcinoGeneticist: Thanks for kicking me for no reason, console.
[14:45:00] carcinoGeneticist: Who is it that kicked me
[14:45:01] carcinoGeneticist: Indy?

[14:45:07] maxv: u deserve it
[14:45:15] carcinoGeneticist: maxv, shut your fucking face, no one asked you.
[14:45:21] carcinoGeneticist: And Indy did you kick me

[14:45:21] maxv: nope lol
[14:45:22] Client "|TBB| Benjamin" spawned in server <STEAM_0:0:57851192> (took 49 seconds).
[14:45:24] bahremu: No disrespect, no cursing at people, no sexual conduct, no bullying.

[14:45:31] |TBB|IndyCooper98 kicked carcinoGeneticist (disrespect)
[14:45:31] |TBB|IndyCooper98: !kick carcin disrespect
[14:45:31] Dropped "carcinoGeneticist" from server<STEAM_0:1:41845776>

[14:45:37] |TBB|IndyCooper98: he was rude
[14:45:37] Client "carcinoGeneticist" connected.

@maxv @Killerstarling6
 
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You're literally getting the part of the conversation that was me being hostile, not the other person. And you can't even see from them being hostile in their gameplay actions either. And even if I was in the wrong so what, it's not deserved of a permanent ban.

I know someone who was doing racism, sexism, and so much worse who only got banned for three weeks and because I got into a few arguments I got banned permanently.

And how am I playing "innocent" when I even said that I was being aggressively defensive in a nutshell?

I'm just saying this ban is unfair since I notice players get 3 bans before perma'd, and I just got perma'd right off the bat.
 
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I reviewed the entire log and included everyone involved with every conversation that you've had. The point of me bringing all of that forward is to ensure that everyone is aware of the situation, and can review it unbiased.

You were quite offensive in numerous circumstances.. the people involved did nothing but ask what your problem is and reminding you to respect people. Your replies to this really don't warrant any recognition of the mistakes you made and this appeal is turning more into proving you were right versus apologizing and getting on with it.

If need be, you are more than welcome to view the log yourself and pull out anything you think I may have missed. No one else in the server was nearly as offensive nor used language in the demeanor you did. Just because you had no prior bans does not mean that we don't reserve the right to permanently ban you, depending on the circumstances and how many people got involved with your bad attitude it was probably the right decision.

People break the rules every day, but until we see screenshots, videos or told to check the logs we cannot catch everyone. You, however decided to do all of this in front of our staff, and your failure to stop resulted in your ban.

Also, if you want to post more but no one has replied after you.. hit the edit button and add to it. This is called double posting, back to back posting without any replies inbetween from anyone else.
 
I reviewed the entire log and included everyone involved with every conversation that you've had. The point of me bringing all of that forward is to ensure that everyone is aware of the situation, and can review it unbiased.

You were quite offensive in numerous circumstances.. the people involved did nothing but ask what your problem is and reminding you to respect people. Your replies to this really don't warrant any recognition of the mistakes you made and this appeal is turning more into proving you were right versus apologizing and getting on with it.

If need be, you are more than welcome to view the log yourself and pull out anything you think I may have missed. No one else in the server was nearly as offensive nor used language in the demeanor you did. Just because you had no prior bans does not mean that we don't reserve the right to permanently ban you, depending on the circumstances and how many people got involved with your bad attitude it was probably the right decision.

People break the rules every day, but until we see screenshots, videos or told to check the logs we cannot catch everyone. You, however decided to do all of this in front of our staff, and your failure to stop resulted in your ban.

Also, if you want to post more but no one has replied after you.. hit the edit button and add to it. This is called double posting, back to back posting without any replies inbetween from anyone else.
Understood.
 
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